[dogman]

Now that I think about it I seem to be missing a Browning BLR 308. Have you seen it?

[oucorry]

I like my Browning A-Bolt 7 mag!! With a 3x9 Leupold.

[udarrell]

Originally Posted by dogman

The best gun actually depends on the type of deer hunting you do. For instance, do you hunt in alot of brush and timber,do you still hunt, hunt from a blind or stand or do you mostly drive? And most importantly at what distance are most shots taken? I think only after those factors are considered then an accurate determination can be made. Personally for the type of hunting that I have done my gun of choice is a left handed browning a-bolt with a 3x5 varible scope in a 270 caliber.

I agree with your points.
I personally like the 243 WIN & 243/06 Wildcat for deer & coyotes.

Bullet placement & the sectional density & construction of the bullets used, are the most important factors for clean kills.

Wisconsin DNR says that lead fragmentation is a serious problem, they say to use bonded or all copper bullets, therefore I am loading bonded Remington [CLUB] bullets for both cartridges.

Visit my web pages for all the details & ballistic tables on your rifle's cartridge.

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- udarrell Darrell

[Marvin]

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WTF?

Personally, I've always used a .30-'06, that's what I had, and it worked. Maybe go with a browning BAR?

[dwalkerman]

Remington Model 700 7mm mag...with Zeiss conquest 3.5 x 10 scope. 140 Gr. Nosler partition. I have a 700 that was built in the late 60's that has a stainless barrel..........they made these for 2 years..... Great shooting , accurate rifle. They don't walk away!!! It's all about the shot you take........never shoot a deer(or any other animal for that matter) unless you know you have a kill shot. All the great hunters out there have let trophy animals walk because they didn't have a good shot. Know the ballistics of you rifle......shoot enough to be comfortable and the rest will follow. Dana .........As my dear old dad used to say...."My rifle shoots really flat!! Dead on at 100 yds, 200 yds, 300 yds.....and then...it starts to rise!!!!!"

[shortbus]

Originally Posted by Marvin

WTF?

Personally, I've always used a .30-'06, that's what I had, and it worked. Maybe go with a browning BAR?

Some idiot world of warcraft spammer Marvin.

[driftlessbamboo]

Originally Posted by udarrell

I agree with your points.
Wisconsin DNR says that lead fragmentation is a serious problem, they say to use bonded or all copper bullets, therefore I am loading bonded Remington [CLUB] bullets for both cartridges.

- udarrell Darrell

I'm not sweating the WDNRs' theories regarding lead fragmentation. It may be a minor consideration if one were shooting high velocity super frangible bullets like SXs' or something and then dining on bloodshot meat. But the majority of rounds fired at deer (especially at the ranges the majority of deer are killed in Wisconsin) pass entirely through the animal leaving less lead than that which is likely in your drinking water.
The above post is not meant as a highjacking attempt. For me the best deer gun is a .58 hawken rifle shooting a 240 gr .570 diameter patched roundball over 90 gr of ffg black powder.

[kgunz11]

Originally Posted by dwalkerman

Remington Model 700 7mm mag...with Zeiss conquest 3.5 x 10 scope. 140 Gr. Nosler partition. I have a 700 that was built in the late 60's that has a stainless barrel..........they made these for 2 years..... Great shooting , accurate rifle. They don't walk away!!! It's all about the shot you take........never shoot a deer(or any other animal for that matter) unless you know you have a kill shot. All the great hunters out there have let trophy animals walk because they didn't have a good shot. Know the ballistics of you rifle......shoot enough to be comfortable and the rest will follow. Dana .........As my dear old dad used to say...."My rifle shoots really flat!! Dead on at 100 yds, 200 yds, 300 yds.....and then...it starts to rise!!!!!"

For the record, the bullet is falling the moment it leaves the barrel.

For a 7mm Rem Mag shooting a 140gr Nosler Partition bullet at 2900 fps, at 300 yards it's almost 4 MOA low, which equates to 12" low. There's not a rifle made that will be "Dead on at 100 yds, 200 yds, 300 yds"

I am a big fan of the 7mm chamberings as its bullets feature the best ballistic coefficients. I have a 7WSM that I shoot 180 Berger VLD bullets out of and a 7-08 I shoot the 162 AMAX out of. I HAVE killed deer beyond 500 yards. Matter of fact, we try and set up so we get shots out at greater distances, but then we train for such shots on a regular basis by shooting steel out to 1000 yards.

My short range rig is a bow, but when I am gun hunting close I use my custom 7-08 with 5.5x22x50 Nightforce scope. When the distance increases I'll take my custom 7WSM with 3.8x22x44 US Optics scope.

[SecurityPro]

There is no best deer rifle but using the particular rifle that you shoot well is always a good idea.

[udarrell]

Originally Posted by driftlessbamboo

I'm not sweating the WDNRs' theories regarding lead fragmentation. It may be a minor consideration if one were shooting high velocity super frangible bullets like SXs' or something and then dining on bloodshot meat. But the majority of rounds fired at deer (especially at the ranges the majority of deer are killed in Wisconsin) pass entirely through the animal leaving less lead than that which is likely in your drinking water.
The above post is not meant as a highjacking attempt. For me the best deer gun is a .58 hawken rifle shooting a 240-gr .570 diameter patched roundball over 90 gr of ffg black powder.

I was going to the bonded bullets for deer well-before the WI DNR came out with their x-ray lead fragment report on TV.

I am only going to use the Hornady 243 WIN 95-gr SST Interlock in the 243 WIN for longer range shots; in my 243/06 Wildcat at close range the SST fragmented completely with only the copper jacket remaining.

At that short range & velocity the Interlock failed.

In smaller bore deer rifles the terminal performance of the highest sectional density of the heaviest bullets is critically important to me.

I may use the 95-gr SST bullets in my 243/06 on coyotes.

We have wild hogs in Crawford county WI, that I may take a crack at this winter, along with coyotes. I wonder if the food pantries will take the hogs.

I give my deer to the food pantries for the hungry & don't want any lead in the food for the hungry.

I don't have a muzzle loader. - udarrell