[shortbus]

Are you worried that with a Democratic controlled congress, including Nanci Pelosi and Harry Reid together with Barak Obama in the White House, that your gun rights are in jeopardy?

[shortbus]

For the record, I simply posted this poll to stir up a little controversy and debate on the forum and did not intend to insult or infuriate any forum users or potential members of this site.

This is a NON PARTISAN forum and everyone is welcome regardless of your political affiliation.

Thanks for understanding!

--Aaron

[Tarpondream]

Our government is based on checks and balances. No President could possibly do that, and this one has much bigger fish to fry anyway. I was very let down that McCain had to fall back on the same old Republican tactics. The right to bear arms, family values, smaller government, tax and spend Democrats, etc. How long have we been hearing that? That's what got Obama elected anyway. The country is sick of hearing the same old Republican lip service. If that's all some people are worried about, their world must be awfully small as well as their minds.

[shortbus]

personally, I'm sick and tired of hearing the same old BS from both sides.

I'm about ready to scrap everyone and start fresh.

Term limits in congress would be a good start in my opinion.

[Mr. McGoo]

Not guns, ammo.

The 2008 Legislative session has begun, and the Ammunition Accountability Act is being introduced across the country. Below is a list of states that have bills to legislate ammo.

legislation pending: The Ammunition Accountability Act

Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

[Brian.Hama]

I'll state that I am probably a lot farther "left" politically, than a vast majority of the forum. Personally, I'm not that bugged by our President-Elect. I am somewhat surprised our most recent administration didn't try to sneak some bill through that would limit and/or remove the average persons' right to arm and protect ourselves. Shortbus brought up the "same old BS". Yes, the "Same Old BS, AKA SOBS" is annoying. It occasionally gets on my nerves. But what about the new line of BS we have been fed? "We are going to protect your freedoms and rights by taking them all away in sneaky, underhanded ways." Or how about "Lets take a bunch of BS, and use it to invade strategic oil deposits in other sovereign countries lands and get many thousands of our soldiers killed so a few select friends of ours can get immensly rich(er)."
Sure, the SOBS is agrivating and annoying. I'll take that ANY day over what we have gone through in the last 8 years. With luck, our new P-E will take a better, third road.

Shortbus: You wanted some controversy and debate stired up? IT HAS BEEN STIRRED! Have fun everybody
Brian H. Washington State, 24 years old

[deputydawg5051]

I am weary of the NRA right wing scare tactics about democrats taking away our guns. I am a registered Republican and I agree with other posts...Obama has bigger fish to fry. Please...just give a couple of years and look back and see what the President has or has not done regarding gun ownership. Remember , Ronald Reagan turned against the NRA after he used them to get elected. And the lambasting of Pelosi and Reid as "liberals"....look up the definition of liberal on dictionary.com...you'll be surprised what it says...and scroll down to the antonym of liberal when you are there....you'll be surprised again. Let's get behind this new President and see what he does and then make decisions...not on the scare tactics of what he is accused of going to do...it didn't work in the election and I hope it doesn't in the future.

[D Winkler]

I'm with dawg. He's been elected. The best thing to do is get behind him and give him a chance. I don't know what is gonna happen but I won't complain about it until it DOES happen.

[salmobytes]

I own lots of guns. My deer rifle has more notches than most. Many more,
in fact. And I voted for Obama. So that's my answer.

Everyone here is all in favor of gun control. It's just a matter of where
you draw the line....well, maybe there are some nut cases here who want
to buy rocket propelled grenades at the hardware store. But nut cases
don't count.

Should crime soaked cities be able to ban hand guns?
Maybe not. But they should be able to ban concealed weapons,
and register and license all hand guns
in a manner similar to drivers licenses. That might not accomplish
much. But there is no argument against it. Not that holds any water.

Rednecks can blather all they want about gun rights. But the cities are
a mess. And there are way too many guns in the wrong hands. How to
solve that problem isn't clear. But ignoring problems doesn't solve them.
Yankee ingenuity often does. So start thinking and stop complaining.

[shortbus]

Originally Posted by salmobytes

I own lots of guns. My deer rifle has more notches than most. Many more,
in fact. And I voted for Obama. So that's my answer.

Everyone here is all in favor of gun control. It's just a matter of where
you draw the line....well, maybe there are some nut cases here who want
to buy rocket propelled grenades at the hardware store. But nut cases
don't count.

Should crime soaked cities be able to ban hand guns?
Maybe not. But they should be able to ban concealed weapons,
and register and license all hand guns
in a manner similar to drivers licenses. That might not accomplish
much. But there is no argument against it. Not that holds any water.

Rednecks can blather all they want about gun rights. But the cities are
a mess. And there are way too many guns in the wrong hands. How to
solve that problem isn't clear. But ignoring problems doesn't solve them.
Yankee ingenuity often does. So start thinking and stop complaining.

I will disagree with you for the most part.

First off, I am completely behind Obama as President of this country until he does something to screw that up. I was a Bush supporter as well but he did plenty of things that lost my support.

The next administration has done or said quite a few things that should be concerning regarding gun rights. I'm not talking about common sense things, because I think they've raised some valid concerns about some things regarding gun control. As you said, there are some crazies that are going to be against ANY type of gun control no matter what, and they are just idiots, BUT...

Cities that have a serious problem with violence or gun violence, what does requiring registration of hand guns do? And furthermore, what does taking it past that and going as far as BANNING hand guns do? Absolutely NOTHING.

It allows you to tack on an extra charge or two to the thug you arrest for something else, but lets face it the prisons are already overcrowded and ultimately it won't mean much other than another line on a rap sheet.

Banning hand guns altogether simply takes them out of the hands of law abiding citizens. Not allowing concealed weapons is essentially the same thing. You can look at Washington D.C. as the prime example of gun violence and gun bans. It is some odd coincidence? It could be I guess.

Increasing taxes on ammunition? What problem exactly, is that going to fix? It's just more of my hard earned tax dollars for or politicians to waste.

I'm not sure what the point of registering my gun would do? It's just another inch to give. I mean, at what point do I have to register my knives, baseball bats, iron skillets, clorox, rat poison, etc? Should I be required to be listed in a federal database if I'm taking self defense classes? You never know when I might flip out and kick somebody in the head.

I realize that's hyperbole but my point is how much control is enough, when none of it benefits us society in the first place?

If I'm a criminal, do you think I give a **** about registering my gun, or the fact that I'm carrying an unregistered, concealed weapon?

Do you think Plaxico Burress getting a 3.5 year MANDATORY MINIMUM sentence for carrying a loaded pistol into a nightclub is going to stop the next thug idiot from doing the same thing? Hell no it's not.

Sorry for the rant. It's a non partisan rant for the most part about the breadth of our government however there is no doubting that there are some very powerful liberal democrats who have not gone out of their way to hide their dislike for firearms and their desire to legislate a much greater deal of control in that regard. If you disagree with that I think you are being blinded a bit by party loyalty.

I'm a Republican but only because I have to be one or the other to vote in my State's primary elections and I feel like it's my duty to make a difference in at least one party. Otherwise I would be a Libertarian because I'm pretty socially liberal. But I am an equal opportunity political party hater. The Libertarians are a joke and likely to never be respected especially when they offer a ticket which includes the biggest joke of a human being ever in Wayne Allen Root.

I look at the issues, not the parties or their opinions on said issues. I think everyone ought to do the same and stop siding with and sticking up for their own party while taking every opportunity to attack the other party and criticize their every move.

It was a mistake for me to create this thread and include it in the newsletter email. As a site owner, I should refrain from making political opinions and I will not ever let them influence my opinions of posters on this forum because we all have our beliefs and opinions and they have little to do with our shared love of the outdoors.